Tuesday, August 24, 2021

Case Study Vietnam

 So back in Sept of 2020, I commented on Vietnam because people were making grand predictions about who "beat" COVID:



I said:

"The point here is that a lot of people (most calling themselves experts) are making grand predictions and proclamations usually to scare the shit out of the public. You need to be very skeptical of these proclamations, particularly those coming from those with clear political interests."

And now:


 Oh dear. 107 cases  per million people.

Deaths? I put Israel in for comparison since I just posted about that country:


 This is why you wait for long term data. This is why you don't rush and make grand announcements of "success" or "winning" or whatever. You don't make grand predictions about how masks worked and lockdowns worked. You wait for the data to come in.

That's how you do science. Anything else is politics and propaganda.

As a side note, here's the "fully vaccinated" chart (again with Israel as a comparison):

 

Interesting that their case and death counts went up with their percentage fully vaccinated. If you do anyone who got at least one dose:


 

It looks even worse. It's already known that people with one shot (of a two or more shot regimen) are more likely to get ill and die than those who either had no shot or had two or more.

So there you have it folks. Stop with the grand pronouncements and be very skeptical of those who make them.

PS:

My theory on why they did so well up until recently? the original strain of COVID was close enough to whatever "regularly" circulates in that region of the world that they didn't have problems. This latest variant is different enough that the epitopes don't recognize it so it is essentially a "new" disease for that population. In essence, this is their "first wave". This is entirely speculation on my part so take it was a healthy dose of salt. It could also be the case that what they are seeing is an entirely new SARS disease, one that will eventually make its way around the world.